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Re: How would this system do?

Postby RandomTask » Sat Jun 20, 2009 00:31:58

Rza wrote:Don't get me started on the PC vs MAC debate!

I'd have an Mac desktop in a heartbeat if it had the same gaming functionality as a PC.


Ditto tbh.

 
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Re: How would this system do?

Postby Dimon » Sat Jun 20, 2009 00:38:25

Rza wrote:I could be an asshole and say we've all used Nvidia cards here aswell with no problems, yet their has been problems with several ATI cards! Muahaha :P

And I could be an even bigger asshole and say I was in this very postion 3 month's ago and yous told me to go for the PC I showed yous with the ATI card in it, so much money, time and effort wasted on 2 faulty cards and shitty drivers :P

I did recommend that because I had good experiences with that card myself. ^^
It is unfortunate that you had problems with two of those cards tho. :(
If I'm not mistaken some vendors shipped HD 4870 cards with a faulty BIOS. Could be u got two of those cards?
But that would be not be ATI's fault imho. :p

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Win XP x64 is much more stable then both Vista versions. \o/
When did u try 64 bit XP? With SP 2 it's extrememly stable.

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Re: How would this system do?

Postby King » Sat Jun 20, 2009 08:45:59

Dimon wrote:Win XP x64 is much more stable then both Vista versions. \o/

Linux > all tbh


Ok thats kinda taking it too far. XP 64 is not, and will never be, as stable as vista. Not to mention only a handful of companies bothered to release drivers for it, hence making it even more pointless. It's been 72 days since i last rebooted my PC, the longest XP lasted was about 8 i think.

But i will give you the Linux line, nothing is more reliable than linux/unix ^_^

But again it comes down to compatability issues =(
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Re: How would this system do?

Postby RandomTask » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:22:01

Never ever had a problem with Vista Ultimate x64. No driver issues/incompatabilities at all. XP was a pain in the cunt for drivers though...

I tried a few different Linux installs and I can see that it would be good for internet/work but I need it for more than that so...

 
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Re: How would this system do?

Postby Razerslash » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:30:10

4 pages already. Well just to rub it in I personally have had issues with ati in the past. As for AMD and Intel I can tell you this is a true fact, Intel run more efficient and cooler than AMD but you may get more performance out of an AMD in stock settings. I used to have one myself, I loved them but were always quite hot when I saw the Q6600 for cheap I got it and it was no mistake to switch.

Either one you choose should meet standards, ATI are slow with their drivers and most of the time are unstable when they are release. Nvidia are no better but put more effort into them. There is nothing wrong with the hardware, its the software that causes faults unless there is a known fault on the hardware.

Id pick anything for best money and performance.
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Re: How would this system do?

Postby Talho » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:41:30

Razerslash wrote:4 pages already. Well just to rub it in I personally have had issues with ati in the past. As for AMD and Intel I can tell you this is a true fact, Intel run more efficient and cooler than AMD but you may get more performance out of an AMD in stock settings. I used to have one myself, I loved them but were always quite hot when I saw the Q6600 for cheap I got it and it was no mistake to switch.

Either one you choose should meet standards, ATI are slow with their drivers and most of the time are unstable when they are release. Nvidia are no better but put more effort into them. There is nothing wrong with the hardware, its the software that causes faults unless there is a known fault on the hardware.

Id pick anything for best money and performance.


ye intel runs cooler thats normal :p, since AMD can also reach a higher temperature then intel. (Well it used to be like that in sempron/atlhon/p4 days, never checked things like temperature for last years :p)

btw tenyo about XP 64bit, I've never tried it myself, but if you just look at all the support drivers for most hardware you will barely find any drivers for it :/
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Re: How would this system do?

Postby RandomTask » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:48:39

I tried XP x64 at some point and seem to remember it didn't support the newest DirectX so none of my games would work... whether thats still the case I have no idea...

Anyways, back on track.

To me it seems as though: Intel rape all the AMD processors (just look at that link I posted, almost all the Intels are on top) yet are more epxensive (but you're paying for what you get).

ATI are not quite as good as nVidia, and cost less correspondingly, so if you want a cheap card get an ATI but if you dont mind paying a little more for those added FPS rates get nVidia. From past experience it seems nVidia have a better track record as far as faulty cards go aswell... Sound fair?

 
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Re: How would this system do?

Postby B00rz » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:50:43

ive always had the standpoint that yes ATI have really good hardware, and they are reasonably cheap compared to Nvidia but their drivers really suck, and without good drivers the top of the range GFX card just becomes a paperweight

where as nvidia put out good cards and good drivers which is why i usually choose nvidia over ATI

as for processors, well its a coin toss for me, i dont really care, end of the day they both do the exact same thing and what you pay is what you get.

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Re: How would this system do?

Postby Talho » Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:25:02

RandomTask wrote:I tried XP x64 at some point and seem to remember it didn't support the newest DirectX so none of my games would work... whether thats still the case I have no idea...

Anyways, back on track.

To me it seems as though: Intel rape all the AMD processors (just look at that link I posted, almost all the Intels are on top) yet are more epxensive (but you're paying for what you get).

ATI are not quite as good as nVidia, and cost less correspondingly, so if you want a cheap card get an ATI but if you dont mind paying a little more for those added FPS rates get nVidia. From past experience it seems nVidia have a better track record as far as faulty cards go aswell... Sound fair?


I'd look again at the high performance cards :p a 4870x2 is only 400-450euros while a GTX280 is 250-300euros, but the 4870x2 is only 2 points behind from a GTX280 in SLI (500-600euros).

tho the only card where nvidea might be the same in performance/price is the GTX295 (actually a GTX280x2) vs the 4870x2



anyway, I never had problems with unstable drivers :/. Never had a game that didnt work or had glitches of any sort. Only problem I ever had is that my 7600go from my laptop didnt want to install the standard nvidea drivers on it, so I had to go for omega drivers. (which actually gave me an fps boost lol :p)
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Re: How would this system do?

Postby Kidders » Sat Jun 20, 2009 14:03:21

Rza wrote:Don't get me started on the PC vs MAC debate!

I'd have an Mac desktop in a heartbeat if it had the same gaming functionality as a PC.


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